Zach Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 SEC teams should be rewarded and everyone else punished. Any system that doesn't accomplish that is fundamentally flawed So they should keep the current system in place? Link to comment
Joshjrn Posted July 24, 2015 Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 A system in which four teams from the SEC West made the playoffs would be ideal Link to comment
Zach Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) A system in which four teams from the SEC West made the playoffs would be ideal Be even more ideal if they continue their recent trend in which they all lose. Edited July 25, 2015 by Zach Link to comment
Joshjrn Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 I'm not sure when one season became indicative of a trend Link to comment
Zach Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) I'm not sure when one season became indicative of a trend Using a 2-year sample of Bama-OU, FSU-Auburn, MSU-GT, Ole Miss-TCU and Bama-OSU '-' BCS bowls/New Years 6 bowls Edited July 25, 2015 by Zach Link to comment
Joshjrn Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 Seems inappropriate to cherry pick games when your original comment referred to "all". Last season was, admittedly, an absolute trainwreck. However, the year before, the SEC West went 4-2. I would say this year will go a long way towards deciding whether last season was an aberration or the start of a trend. Link to comment
Zach Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I wasn't necessarily cherry-picking, as the BCS/NY6 bowls are the only bowls that have the utmost national significance. Winning those bowl games puts you in the conversation of being the nation's best team. The "all" I was referring to was in response to all those SEC West teams losing their playoff matches, as they've lost all their BCS/NY6 bowls the last 2 seasons (0-5). Link to comment
Joshjrn Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 The non-playoff former BCS games can be a mixed bag as far as reading the tea leaves. For example, I don't think anyone could reasonably argue that 2008/2009 Utah was a better football team than 2008/2009 Alabama. But, Utah was absolutely thrilled to be in the Sugar Bowl while Alabama was pissed that it wasn't in the championship. Bama came out lethargic and got run off the field. Similarly, I think 2013/2014 Alabama would beat 2013/2014 Oklahoma on a neutral field more often than not. But, it's hard to come out and fire on all cylinders when you lose your shot at a championship on a last second kickoff returned for a touchdown (one of my all-time favorite college football moments, I might add ). And I think we all agree that your win over Auburn could have gone either way on any given day. When you restrict your data set to such a small sample size, things get a little wonky. With all of that said, I make absolutely no excuses for last season. It was, again, a train wreck. Link to comment
Zach Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) Winning those BCS games merely puts you in the conversation that you otherwise wouldn't have been a part of if you had played in another bowl instead. That obviously excludes scenarios where teams like Utah, UConn and NIU made appearances. To an extent, I liked watching those games with the mindset of the pre-championship game era, in which #1 didn't always end the season playing #2, and the final rankings were a culmination of all the top-tier bowls. Ordinarily, I'd excuse Alabama's loss to OU after their devastating loss to Auburn, but as of late, Saban seems to have an excuse for every loss other than his team just got outplayed. Because of that, I'm not as quick to defend Bama in their losses as I used to be. In terms of our game against Auburn, there's a large part of me that believes the first half of that game plays out completely different if Jimbo didn't take so long to listen to our sideline by concealing his play calls. It could have been a coincidence, but we went from getting dominated to then dominating Auburn once Jimbo finally listened to Kelvin Benjamin about Dameyune Craig yelling out all our calls to Auburn's defense. Edited July 25, 2015 by Zach Link to comment
Joshjrn Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 Certainly possible. That said, I don't know if you can look at the second half ass kicking in a vacuum. Football is an extremely emotional game. It's easy to let your guard down when you go up big, and it's damned hard to get it back up if you then get hit in the mouth. My senior year in high school, we beat a team early in the season pretty comfortably. We met them again in the semis and proceeded to go up on them something like 21 points at halftime. The rain started coming down in the second, our offense stalled on a couple of drives, and all of a sudden, Keiland Williams proceeded to become unstoppable. No matter what we did, we just couldn't light the fire again after we let it go out. We ended up losing in double overtime to a team we would beat nine times out of ten after giving up a massive lead. Now, none of that is to say that Auburn was better than you were. Frankly, with the way that game went, we'll probably never know. I would simply hesitate to entirely dismiss the first half and embrace the second, no matter the reality of their knowing your calls. Link to comment
Zach Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I don't disagree with any of that. I just find that the way Auburn's defense (particularly their secondary) was shutting down an offense with 12 players who are now in the NFL, I find it plausible that it affected the way that game turned out. Link to comment
Joshjrn Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 Certainly plausible, without a doubt. Link to comment
Joshjrn Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 Coaches' Poll Rank, Team (First-Place Votes), Points 1. Ohio State, (62), 1598 2. TCU, (1), 1487 3. Alabama, (1), 1452 4. Baylor, 1365 5. Oregon, 1260 6. Michigan State, 1230 7. Auburn, 1103 8. Florida State, 1057 9. Georgia, 1026 10. USC, 1014 11. Notre Dame, 883 12. Clemson, 838 13. LSU, 727 14. UCLA, 697 15. Ole Miss, 668 16. Arizona State, 577 17. Georgia Tech, 573 18. Wisconsin, 470 19. Oklahoma, 407 20. Arkansas, 377 21. Stanford, 365 22. Arizona, 299 23. Missouri, 229 24. Boise State, 190 25. Tennessee, 166 Link to comment
Zach Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Didn't post the rankings when I was on earlier because I knew you would Link to comment
Zach Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) Figured I'd let Josh get a breather, so I'll post the preseason AP rankings. Ranking Team First-place votes1. Ohio State 612. TCU 03. Alabama 04. Baylor 05. Michigan State 06. Auburn 07. Oregon 08. USC 09. Georgia 010. Florida State 011. Notre Dame 012. Clemson 013. UCLA 014. LSU 015. Arizona State 016. Georgia Tech 017. Ole Miss 018. Arkansas 019. Oklahoma 020. Wisconsin 021. Stanford 022. Arizona 023. Boise State 024. Missouri 025. Tennessee 0 Edited August 23, 2015 by Zach Link to comment
Joshjrn Posted August 23, 2015 Author Share Posted August 23, 2015 I'm still boycotting the AP due to the 2003 season Link to comment
Joshjrn Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) I was out of town last weekend, so this is my first day of wire to wire football of the season. Fuck yeah Edited September 12, 2015 by Joshjrn Link to comment
Chris Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Haven't been on here in awhile. How is everyone? Link to comment
Joshjrn Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Doing well. Been quiet around here. How's life treating you? Link to comment
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