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The actual death of RuneScape


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http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?14,15,354,65764827

 

I'm calling it now. 

 

IVP got offered 300 million bucks for Jagex from a Chinese ore/mining company.

 

IVP will obviously sell out for the easy money.

 

The chinese ore/mining company is not stable and is grasping at straws to survive.

 

While the new company has no idea how to do gaming... if they follow the (failed!) model for Chinese mmo's... you'll see MTX like you've never seen before. And if the company itself shuts down... so will Runescape.

 

RIP

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I won't jump on the rs is dead bandwagon yet as that is the same thing everyone said IVP would do and look RS is still here. 

 

I do have to say though that the company that made the offer is a bit concerning.

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We'll see.  I think you're right that any firm investing in / buying RS would be doing so for the purpose of upping micro-transactions and pay-per-content.  Presumably they think that they can make Runescape more profitable than IVP has.  

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11 minutes ago, Pzs said:

I mean if jagex listens to the community, they will not sell. But jagex doesn't always listen to the community until late..

 

Jagex doesn't make this choice, IVP does.

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1 hour ago, Memphus said:

It'll never die. There will always be whales for them to bleed more cash off of. It will just get much more P2W

 

I wanna say that while RS3 is the big breadwinner for jagex, the thousands of people that play OSRS solely for the reason that it's 'harder' and lacks MTX would probably quit if anything major were added. That's like half the playerbase.

 

Runescape wouldn't survive any sort of serious MTX. The biggest violations thusfar have been t80 weapons in TH and being able to buy like 40mil xp during some promos but the second you can start directly buying a maxed account with maxed gear and higher xp rates is when the game will die.

 

That being said it's silly to think they'd spend 300MIL on this company and then run it into the ground within a few years when most of the playerbase is in a market they don't understand.

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22 minutes ago, AmusedDragon said:

 

I wanna say that while RS3 is the big breadwinner for jagex, the thousands of people that play OSRS solely for the reason that it's 'harder' and lacks MTX would probably quit if anything major were added. That's like half the playerbase.

 

Runescape wouldn't survive any sort of serious MTX. The biggest violations thusfar have been t80 weapons in TH and being able to buy like 40mil xp during some promos but the second you can start directly buying a maxed account with maxed gear and higher xp rates is when the game will die.

 

That being said it's silly to think they'd spend 300MIL on this company and then run it into the ground within a few years when most of the playerbase is in a market they don't understand.

I still can't post links on the forums from my phone, but you can find the Jagex earnings from 2014 and it's in the 1-2 million pound range. I'm unsure of what the conversion is but if they're buying the company for 300 mill it'll take at least a hundred years to turn a profit. Especially coming from a mining company that's slowly going under. It's a pretty real concern to think they might just gut the game for what it's worth to boost their short-term earnings before they sell out to a larger company. 

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4 hours ago, Gladzgasmic said:

I still can't post links on the forums from my phone, but you can find the Jagex earnings from 2014 and it's in the 1-2 million pound range. I'm unsure of what the conversion is but if they're buying the company for 300 mill it'll take at least a hundred years to turn a profit. Especially coming from a mining company that's slowly going under. It's a pretty real concern to think they might just gut the game for what it's worth to boost their short-term earnings before they sell out to a larger company. 

 

What larger company would buy a product that has been milked to nothingness?

 

I'm not an economist or a businessman, I don't get this. lol.

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For those that do not know what IVP is:

 

Insight Venture Partners - A private equity firm. Co-Founder Jeff Horing and VP Alex Crissis joined the Jagex Board as the Gower's left. It is essentially how MTX (micro-transactions) were brought into the game; as a means for the investment company to further their funds.

 

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Insight_Venture_Partners

 

The shifty company mentioned (Shandong Honda) is attempting to buy out IVP's 55.4% investment in Jagex.

 

Further reading:

http://variety.com/2016/digital/global/runescape-developer-jagex-china-shandong-hongda-1201731365/

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-03-15-chinese-mining-company-buys-runescape-dev-for-usd300m-report

 

Stocks:

Yearly loss of 16% - http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/600532:CH & http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/stockdetails/fi-136.1.600532.SHG

 

Optimistic POV; kind of  - https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/4ao3z1/why_theres_no_need_to_worry_about_jagexs/

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18 hours ago, Gladzgasmic said:

I still can't post links on the forums from my phone, but you can find the Jagex earnings from 2014 and it's in the 1-2 million pound range.

That is so much lower than I would have ever expected. 

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38 minutes ago, Caedis said:

Runescape will never die, it just multiples like Bay Bay's Kids.  
 

 

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On 3/17/2016 at 2:53 PM, Beric (Ironeyes) said:

That is so much lower than I would have ever expected. 

 

That has to be wrong. They employ too many people for that to be accurate.

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14 hours ago, Caedis said:

Runescape will never die, it just multiples like Bay Bay's Kids.  
 

 

 

I love that you show up just in time to deliver a one liner. Lol

9 hours ago, Dan G said:

 

That has to be wrong. They employ too many people for that to be accurate.

 

Perhaps that's profit? Or perhaps just plain wrong. Cause you're right, their expenses to run the business must be way over 1-2mil pounds. 

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