Joshjrn Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 Lets go Texas Yes no?? LolI would love to have a UT fan on this thread Link to comment
Wolf Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Hey i haven't been able to catch any games so how would I know everythings bigger in Texas so they must play really well right woohoo Link to comment
Joshjrn Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 Texas fans would certainly say so Link to comment
Zach Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) And so we've got Georgia who hung fucking 45 on them, Louisville ranked 69th in total offense, GT at 19, Oklahoma at 23, SC at 33, and they don't even get to pretend to claim FSU. Despite all of his rapey flaws, that kid could play football. The fact that they couldn't beat you with him not in the stadium is pathetic.So they put up decent, if not great, numbers against three teams with a pulse. And got blown the fuck out by another. Again, I'm not saying that had a bad defense. They had an above average defense. But let's not pretend like anyone was scared of them, and if you're looking for a "defensive team" to follow, they just ain't it. If I recall correctly, UGA had a TD or two on ST/D. That was when UGA had both Gurley and Chubb, which was easily the country's best running game. Clemson pulled a typical Clemson in the 4th quarter of that game. Regardless, I put little value in how a team performs in their opener (or first real game) if it's an outlier for the rest of their season. UL's offensive numbers were skewed by the fact that guys like Davante Parker and Michael Dyer missed considerable time early in the season. Those two guys were supposed to be their saving graces for losing Bridgewater. UNC was also #45. Those rankings for the others you provided are all respectable. Them not beating FSU last year had nothing to do with their defense. lol did you watch the game? They realistically gave up 10 points to us in regulation. Even with a bunch of young guys and being without Jameis, our entire offense was pretty much all blue chips. Jameis was in the stadium, as the telecast showed him between every single play. They lost because their offense got to the 1-yard line, at which point, their center snapped the ball to the 20-yard line where they missed a FG (and another FG). We got a lucky TD toward the end of regulation when their CB slipped and gave Rashad an easy 80-yd TD. They then fumbled the ball when all they had to do was run the clock out. They just find ways to choke against teams like FSU, but it was at no real fault to their defense, as they held us to negative rushing yards in regulation. I remember sitting there at the game knowing we had no business winning. Not even going to address the "rapey" bit. Still interested in why you credit Auburn for their physical style of defense, but you won't concede the same for Clemson. Edited July 16, 2015 by Zach Link to comment
Zach Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Lets go Texas Yes no?? Lol You guys going to crack the top-3 for teams in Texas this season? Link to comment
Joshjrn Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 Was he in the stadium? I apparently remembered incorrectly. Could have sworn he was told to stay away from that game. Maybe I'm thinking of a different game. Anyway, I'm going off memory of style. You can be a "good" defense without being a smash-mouth defense, or being considered a "defensive team". Clemson's identify has never, to my knowledge, been as a defensive juggernaut. They've been trying to outscore teams for as long as I can remember, with varying results. Link to comment
Zach Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) Was he in the stadium? I apparently remembered incorrectly. Could have sworn he was told to stay away from that game. Maybe I'm thinking of a different game.Anyway, I'm going off memory of style. You can be a "good" defense without being a smash-mouth defense, or being considered a "defensive team". Clemson's identify has never, to my knowledge, been as a defensive juggernaut. They've been trying to outscore teams for as long as I can remember, with varying results. ESPN made the biggest media circus out of that game. They made this whole big deal because he warmed up with the team, despite being suspended. They then focused the camera on him between just about every single play. It was pathetic. And traditionally, no. However, ever since the arrival of Brent Venables as DC, their defense has steadily risen to be their strength. In terms of game management, it's actually pretty amazing as to how good their OC and DC are, coupled with how bad their HC is. Edited July 17, 2015 by Zach Link to comment
Joshjrn Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 Which game am I thinking of... there was a major suspension in the last couple of years in which the star wasn't allowed on the sidelines because he would be a distraction. I could have sworn it was that game, but obviously not. This is going to irk me until I figure it out... Link to comment
Wolf Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Let's gooooo Argentina !oops wrong forum soooo what's the best top 5 teams in the league ?Do the people who win college football go onto the NFL afterwards? free scholarships lucky ducks Link to comment
Zach Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) Let's gooooo Argentina !oops wrong forum soooo what's the best top 5 teams in the league ?Do the people who win college football go onto the NFL afterwards? free scholarships lucky ducks Well, the AP rankings at the end of last season wereRanking, Team, Record, Voting Points Total 1. Ohio State 14-1 14752. Oregon 13-2 14023. TCU 12-1 13494. Alabama 12-2 12975. Michigan State 11-2 12125. Florida State 13-1 1212 At this point, no official rankings have been released for this coming season. Phil Steele usually has the best preseason predictions, in terms of ballparking the success of the teams on his list. I've put his rankings (from June 15th) below.1. Ohio State 2. TCU 3. USC 4. Alabama 5. Baylor 6. Georgia 7. Stanford 8. Florida State 9. Michigan State 10. LSU 11. Oregon 12. Notre Dame 13. Wisconsin 14. Auburn 15. UCLA 16. Virginia Tech 17. Clemson 18. Oklahoma 19. Penn State 20. Ole Miss 21. Miami (FL) 22. Arkansas 23. Boise State 24. Missouri 25. Tennessee 26. Nebraska 27. Utah 28. Oklahoma State 29. Arizona State 30. Georgia Tech 31. Marshall 32. Texas A&M 33. Texas 34. Arizona 35. Toledo 36. Minnesota 37. Louisville 38. San Diego State 39. Mississippi State 40. Cincinnati Edited July 17, 2015 by Zach Link to comment
Zach Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Which game am I thinking of... there was a major suspension in the last couple of years in which the star wasn't allowed on the sidelines because he would be a distraction. I could have sworn it was that game, but obviously not. This is going to irk me until I figure it out... You mentioning that is giving me a sense of deja vu, but I can't remember who it was either. My first inclination was to say Gurley, but I don't believe it was him. Link to comment
Zach Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Exactly why I have no respect for the propaganda machine that is ESPN college football metrics. Rewarding a team just because of conference affiliation (win or lose) rather than actual performance. 8 SEC teams ahead of FSU in their FPI projections, despite Bama and LSU being the only two who have consistently recruited in the same tier as FSU. Of course the SEC is the best overall conference, but it's ridiculous that ESPN continuously tries to make people believe that every team in the conference is either a giant or a sleeping giant. Just sets the stage for ESPN to influence everyone to rank many of these teams higher than they deserve. If they win, it validates their stance. If they lose, it's because they lost to another SEC team who they have ranked in the ~top-15. It's such dumb, circular logic. Link to comment
Zach Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Arkansas is 4-20 in conference play the last 3 seasons. Good enough for a top-10 FPI projection! Link to comment
Joshjrn Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 FPI is like QBR. It's a silly stat made by silly people which, more often than not, comes to silly results. I chuckled when I saw LSU at 5, our recruiting classes be damned. Until Les Miles shows that he's capable of putting a competent quarterback on the field, we have no business being taken seriously on the national stage. Link to comment
Zach Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Yep, just annoying how ESPN will undoubtedly use it incessantly throughout the season. Link to comment
Joshjrn Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 I wish we would move to a paradigm in which the first polls wouldn't come out until Week 7, but that's just me dreaming. Link to comment
Zach Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I wish we would move to a paradigm in which the first polls wouldn't come out until Week 7, but that's just me dreaming. I wouldn't be opposed to that. I'm of the opinion that the playoff rankings shouldn't be released weekly. Seemed like the committee did too much dissecting on a weekly basis, causing them to consistently change their criteria each week. What they would say they punished a team for in one week, they'd say they rewarded another team for in a subsequent week. Link to comment
Joshjrn Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 SEC teams should be rewarded and everyone else punished. Any system that doesn't accomplish that is fundamentally flawed Link to comment
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